From: Ben517@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 6:01 PM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: MAIL CALL NO. 1362 517TH PRCT - JULY 15, 2007
70  Pleasant St. Cohasset, MA.02025  *781 383 0215 * Mail Call : Ben Barrett  Ben517@aol.com
 
Hello,
 
I have just  received  information from Eleanor Archer that Ed "Dog" Jordan has suddenly passed away this past week.
 
At times you may have a problem viewing photos. However, we place most photos on the website under Training and WWII Photos .
 
Please try to send in donations by August 15 to Keep the 517 PRCT Association viable. Suggested amount $30.00 to  include Thunderbolt.  Auxiliary members $20.00 Plus $10.00 if you want to receive the for the Thunderbolt.  Send donations to  Leo Dean, 14 Stonehenge Lane, Albany, NY  12203. 
 
Please let me know if you want to receive Mail Calls or if you have a problem receiving them. You can always read Mail Calls by clicking on www.517prct.org/archives
 
This Mail Call may be confusing to you. Me too
Ben

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Snowbird mini-reunion
Kissimmee, FL Jan 20-22, 2008 in later Mail Calls.

 
Ben and Claire,
Do I have news for you.  As V.Pres. Dick Chaney  left the stage he passed by our table where we were all standing and I extended my hand to him. He took a couple steps toward me and shook my hand as he passed. I was sure the secret service man would step between us but the V P smiled and went on his way.
 
Don Saunders, 596th PEC

Col. S. M. Wallace
 
I would like to thank the Barrett family for their kind hospitality and friendship they extended to me, a perfect stranger, at the recent 517th Dinner in Virginia. I had the opportunity to speak with so many of the original troopers, what a great evening! My father was an enlisted man in G Company, I only wish he could have been there too. I remember trying to put his jump boots on as a six year old kid, they were brown then... And LTG Seitz- still going strong!! There is a logistics base named after him in Baghdad "Log Base Seitz" , I think it was named when the 82nd was rotating through the Baghdad A/O.
Stay safe all!

COL S.M. Wallace
Alexandria, VA

Elaine Berger

Bob,

It looks like Ancestry's licensing prevents me from downloading the whole list and having it redistributed by another site.   The citation shows they copied from fiche at NARA.  I'll look around on Monday for a copy that can be distributed or linked.   I "paged" through on Ancestry's scans and saw at least HQ & HQ Co, Service Company, H and I Companies.  For my uncle's page the citation is

Microfilm Serial:

T715

Microfilm Roll:

T715_6993

Page Number:

229

The listings look like they were submitted by each company as they are by company, rank and alpha by name.  The pages are different than the typical DOJ manifests of the day. 

Right now I have to go pay some attention to 2 hungry cats and Joe, my husband.

Thanks,

Elaine  


   Bob Barrett

Kenton,

I don’t know how long you’ve been following MailCall, or searched through the web site for info on Floyd Stott.  (There is a search feature for both.)  Just in case, I thought I would pass on this item that appeared in a MailCall in 2001.

Bob Barrett


Date: 10/19/2001
From
: Bill Gearon
Subj: Manhay

I related the story of Mike Spano and Fred Beyer to my uncle, Lt. Ray Gearon. He remembers the incident with the P38 and the losses from the friendly fire. He was the platoon leader of the 3rd platoon, Co. I, 517th, and Lt. Stott ("Stozie" he called him) was the platoon leader of the 1st platoon. He relates that when it came time to move into town, the shells were coming in very heavy and falling short. My uncle wanted to wait, Lt. Stott did not. Stott left and my uncle followed him about a minute later. When the third platoon caught up to the first platoon, he found "Stozie" dead. He recalled the P38 dropping the bomb and strafing the encampment.

He related a story about Lt. Stott. They were in Nice and a number of children with no money were watching others on a merry-go-round, unable to participate. "Stozie" bought a roll of tickets and he told the operator that all of the children could ride.God bless you all!

Bill Gearon, nephew of Lt. Raymond D. Gearon


Kenton,

 I believe that Raymond Gearon passed away in 2004.  But I think his nephew, Bill Gearon is still on the MailCall mailing roster.

 Just to finish out the story of Mike Spano and Fred Meyers, here is the full version.  (This story has been repeated in MailCall a couple of times before.)

 Bob Barrett

Subj: Mail Call No. 164
Date:
10/12/2001 4:49:00 PM Eastern Daylight time
From:
Mike Spano
To: Ben517

Ben, You asked for personal stories. Here's one I will never forget. I know that thousands of eerie events happened to lots of guys that made them believe in a guardian angel. Here's mine.

It was in Manhay. I was with I Company, Third platoon. We led the attack and were right in the middle of our own massive artillery barrage. That night we all jumped into already dug foxholes. The next morning, one of the guys in the foxhole only a few yards away asked me if I would switch foxholes with him. Can't remember his name, but he was a B.A.R. man. Without hesitation I said "sure", and made the switch. It was late morning, I believe, when a P38 lightning flew overhead. Because of its twin fuselage, it was one of the few planes I could recognize, so I jumped out of the foxhole to take care of a personal matter. Suddenly, the P38 dives and drops a 500 pounder. I dove back in the foxhole. That's when I heard that awful scream. I popped my head up just in time to see the guy with whom I had switched foxholes running with no right arm. Just shreds hung down from what remained of his shoulder. I slumped down in disbelief. If I didn't switch foxholes with him, that would be me. Neither he nor his buddy survived just that one bomb. Friendly fire did it to us again. For quite some time I suffered what is called survivor's guilt. Manhay wasn't the only time my guardian angel was looking after me. I'll tell you about another incident in which I was shot when leading an attack as pointman at a later time. It boggles my mind. Incidentally, if the trooper who was with me in the foxhole is among our members, please write me.

Mike 517


Date: 10/13/2001 10:00:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From:
Fred Beyer

I was in Manhay, and will never forget the artillery barrage the night before I lost my arm from that P38. It could be the one you are talking about. I was in a foxhole with Cleo Browning and believe he was killed. I do remember that Lt. Stott was killed that night.

I don't remember any one named Mike off hand. Refresh my memory, will you?

Sunday October 14, 2001
Fred Beyer


Date: 10/13/2001 10:51:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From
Mike Spano

Hi, FT Beyer...

I was astounded to hear that you survived the P38 attack. When I saw you running, I thought you would never make it with all the blood loss. God bless you. It was either you or your buddy who switched foxholes with me prior to the attack. Do you remember? Believe me, the switch happened. Was it you or your buddy who was the B.A.R. man? Please let me hear from you. However, we are driving to Florida tomorrow to our winter home and need a week to get my PC turned on there. I can't believe it. All these years I thought you were dead. I don't think we knew each other very well, so I didn't expect you to remember me when I couldn't recall your name either. But I'll never forget the incident. I was in the foxhole next to you.

Mike Spano


Mike. Did you ever get to Florida? I haven't heard from you since.-Ben


Date: 10/19/2001
From
: Bill Gearon
Subj: Manhay

I related the story of Mike Spano and Fred Beyer to my uncle, Lt. Ray Gearon. He remembers the incident with the P38 and the losses from the friendly fire. He was the platoon leader of the 3rd platoon, Co. I, 517th, and Lt. Stott ("Stozie" he called him) was the platoon leader of the 1st platoon. He relates that when it came time to move into town, the shells were coming in very heavy and falling short. My uncle wanted to wait, Lt. Stott did not. Stott left and my uncle followed him about a minute later. When the third platoon caught up to the first platoon, he found "Stozie" dead. He recalled the P38 dropping the bomb and strafing the encampment.

He related a story about Lt. Stott. They were in Nice and a number of children with no money were watching others on a merry-go-round, unable to participate. "Stozie" bought a roll of tickets and he told the operator that all of the children could ride.

My uncle also related another story. He had a man in his platoon (he could not remember his name) that always complained that "he was the last man in the last squad, in the last platoon in the regiment, and the first to go out as a scout."

God bless you all!

Bill Gearon, nephew of Lt. Raymond D. Gearon


...Kenton Immerfall

Bob,

 I still have tears in my eyes.  I had no idea you would do such a wonderful job with the photos I sent.  You are Ben are THE BEST!  I need to send this link to Floyd's first cousins as well as my cousins.  They will be so surprised.

 God Bless...Kenton Immerfall                       Training and WWII Photos

Kenton,

Your uncle was the first trooper into Manhay where he was KIA.  I know.- Ben. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Kfihome46@aol.com [mailto:Kfihome46@aol.com]
Sent:
Sunday, July 15, 2007 11:12 AM
To: r4b4@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Floyd A. Stott photos

In a message dated 7/14/2007 9:47:30 PM Central Daylight Time, r4b4@comcast.net writes:

Just in case, I thought I would pass on this item that appeared in a MailCall in 2001.

Bob,

Thanks for the 2001 Mail Call.  Apparently, I did not know about Mail Call in 2001 or I would have seen this entry.  I read every Mail Call and I have saved many paragraphs and tidbits to hard copy.

I do not know the name Bill Gearon but if you have an address (snail or email) I'd be willing to contact him. 

1st Lt. Raymond D. Gearon's account of "how" Floyd was KIA is a bit different from other soldier's accounts.  However, I do find 1st Lt. Gearon, Michael A. Spano, and Frederick T. Beyer on the 1944 Company "I" Christmas Roster.  It makes me wonder if Michael and Fred were members of that fateful 3rd Platoon that was almost wiped out at Manhay, Belgium, Dec. 27, 1944.

As a small boy I heard the story that Floyd was killed while jumping out of a plane.  The story went that "automatic machine guns" on the plane discharged without warning and Floyd was dead "when he hit the ground."

On page 304 of Battling Buzzards by Gerald Astor, Lt. John Saxion tells of witnessing, "the artillery barrage."  He goes on to say that when he reported to Paxton, he found Paxton in tears because, "He told me Lt. Stott had been killed by the barrage."  So, there are conflicting stories of exactly "how" Floyd was killed.  It still remains that Floyd, and his brave men, were most likely killed by friendly fire.

Along with this Battling Buzzards account I have the CD made by some of those brave soldiers who fought to take Manhay.  Their detailed account also mentions the artillery fire.  So be it.

Thank you, again, for all of your efforts on behalf of so many.  God Bless!

Kenton