From: Ben517@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 8:06 PM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: MAIL CALL NO. 634 517TH PRCT--FEBRUARY 4, 2004
Hello,
Lory Curtis started an interesting controversy "Mail Call" No. 632 when he brought up the question concerning the password for the Southern France jump. Regardless of what the pasword was or whether crickets were used or not sixty years ago, we won the war. 
 Ben
 

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2004 West Coast Party

April 19-22, 2004
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Merle McMorrow

Ben:

I think Howard H. is confused with the Normandy invasion.  I believe they used the cricket up there in the June jump.

                                                                       Merle


Chris Lindner

Hi Ben:

By all means I know that I do not qualify as 517th historian by any means and of course I was not there 60 years ago but from everything that I have read I thought that the identification word was “Democracy” on the Jump into Southern France.

I can not even find the word “Lafayette” on any of the documents I have. 

I am sure that there are many people that will be able to answer this question much better than I can but I thought I would just add what all of my documentations say.

Thanks.

Chris Lindner

Nate Rubenstein’s daughter


Mark Baird

Hi Ben,
  Am not sure of the order of Democracy/Lafayette,
but the alternative was "Billy the Kid".  One of the
British troopers couldn't remember that, so the story
goes, so he said "some bloody______ American outlaw".
I do remember challenging the first people I saw,
after about an hour and half wandering around, and
they didn't respond so I cranked a shell in the
chamber of my M1 and they heard that!  Don't have the
foggest notion as to who they were, but they were on
our side.
I was behind a tree just in case they shot and asked
questions later..
Mark Baird


Randolf Coleman

Ben..Re the suggetions as to the password on D Day, made by Howard and Tom, I recall the crickett, and the altenative password, Billy the Kid. I can not be sure of the primary password.  As to the French Paratrooops, I do not remember there were any. In my plane, we had a British Paratrooper, a Lt. He was there in a liaison capacity. He jumped right ahead of me, and I kicked the stick. I also had to kick his rear to get him out the door.I had heard of freezing in the door, but this is the only time I saw it. He caused us to  be delayed in jumping, and as a result he and I were further from friends when we got on the ground. When I located him, he had forgotten the password and in answer to my crickett,said"some bloody cowboy" ,instead of Billy the Kid.  He acceped my critique of his lack of discipline, and guts, and said to me "when I get killed you take charge". I told him a was already in charge. Anyway, that is my recollection as to any other troopers in our jump.  Randolph Coleman F. Co.
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Page 47  Paratroopers' Odyssey mentions the password and countersign "Lafayette"--- "Democracy" and also the British trooper reply to "Billy ---"The Kid". -Ben

Rick Vasquez
Hi Ben and Howard,
I would like to say thank you to Trooper Walsh and Tom Reber whom I have contacted regarding  the issue of contributing items that the paratroopers may want that we can provide. Not only for the trip to Europe, but for the following Reunion. I like the idea of Sweatshirts for the cool mornings in Southern France. I would just need to know who to contact regarding  the European Trip, I can start from there. The trip will be here before you know it. If we can start now, we will have everything well before. Again, thank you for reviewing this request and we are honored to help in any way.
Best Regards,
Rick Vasquez
Son of Nacho Vasquez, Headquarters 3rd Battalion

Randolg Coleman
Hi Ben, I noticed in a mail from you on the 10th of Jan a letter inquiring of Jack Milojevich. As we were both in F. Co. I knew him well. I would be glad to communicate with his nephew as per his request. If he reads this, he can contact me at rcoleman8@satx.rr.com Randolph Coleman