From: Ben517
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 2:07 AM
Subject: MAIL CALL NO. 802 517TH PRCT--NOVEMBER 24, 2004
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Dallas Long
 
Happy Thanksgiving to all the Troopers and families.  Jerrie is slowly recovering from her heart attacks, concussion, and eye surgery.  I have my old age problems, but so much to be thankful for this Thanksgiving.  God willing we will get to reunion, but can't get to Florida reunion.  Have saved all of the Mail Call print outs. One of our grandsons has asked for them. It is pouring "cats and dogs" in Atlanta now--yuk. Winter is making its way.  Dallas Long
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Dad,

Thought you might find this interesting.  It is an editorial from the Wall Street Journal last week.

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Death by Adreleline

By Edward N. Luttwak

Anyone who has ever been in combat -- not just in a combat zone, but gun-in-hand against an enemy trying to kill you --needs no investigation to know exactly what happened in that Fallujah mosque last Saturday. The anonymous Marine who is seen shooting and killing a motionless and seemingly unarmed Iraqi in the television footage, was in that special state of temporary, chemically induced compulsion to kill that makes hand-to-hand combat possible at all.

Before the fighting there might be tension or not, depending on situations and personalities. But when the body receives the message, right or wrong, that the moment of killing or being killed has arrived, one can actually feel the adrenaline jetting into action. An endocrinologist who had himself been in combat once explained to me why it is the fighter's molecule (C9H13NO3) par excellence: It increases the rate and strength of the heartbeat to add energy, dilates bronchi and pupils to enhance breathing and vision, increases vasoconstriction and sweating and -- most appropriately -- accelerates the clotting of blood.

No matter what happens under its influence -- and people do the strangest things besides fighting -- there is one thing that cannot happen: Adrenaline does not dissipate instantly when it is no longer essential for survival. That is why fighters kill surrendering enemies- they are still chemically compelled to kill, and have someone to kill in front of them. A moment later, with the effect dissipated, that same fighter becomes a person once again or, in the case at hand, a disciplined and presumably decent Marine who would never dream of killing a defenseless, harmless, wounded prisoner. It is the most common thing in the world for soldiers to kill the surrendering enemy in that first post-combat instant, and then to help the survivors a moment later.

It is reported that the anonymous Marine was himself wounded in the face and had lost a comrade killed by the booby-trapped body of an insurgent. Perhaps so -- dead insurgents are searched for documents, and therefore booby-trapping them is a good tactic for their retreating comrades if they can do it. But it is quite unnecessary to add any further explanation, or excuse for that matter. For the U.S. Marine Corps -- as for any decent and law-abiding military force -- the deliberate, cold-blooded, killing of unarmed prisoners is murder full stop, and must be punished as such.

But that is irrelevant in this case (unless the anonymous Marine happens to be a common murderer by some remote chance) because the incident took place on the battlefield in an unsecured environment before prisoners were taken. The transitory post-combat compulsion to kill is entirely involuntary and inevitable -- it could only be ended by ending all infantry combat. It has happened in every war on the largest scale even in the best of armies. The difference last Saturday in Fallujah was the presence of a television camera that captured images that contain deceptive fragments of the truth. For we see and hear not the anonymous Marine but the fighter acting out the effects of C9H13NO3. The result is the world-wide condemnation that with some mass media, including Al Jazeera of course, degenerates into outright incitement.

But it was not Al Jazeera that revealed the incident; rather it was a pool of unpatriotic American television reporters and the Marine officers who started an immediate judicial investigation, for strict American legalism is alive, and well even in the Marine uniform.

Those are two things for which we can be very thankful. The last thing we would want are patriotic reporters who would conceal errors, embarrassments and crimes in our armed forces, thus favoring their present reputation at the expense of their improvement, or military officers who would condone atrocity. The pan-Arabists of Al Jazeera do not serve their cause well by glorifying every Arab attack anywhere in the world, however incompetent, and refraining from criticizing the killing of the defenseless if the perpetrators are Arabs. We want both the unvarnished truth from our media and strict legalism in our, armed forces. But the anonymous Marine cannot be punished for an inevitable consequence of his duty as a combatant in war.

Mr. Luttwak, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic & International Studies, is the author, among other books, of "Strategy: The Logic of War and Peace" (Belknap, 2002).

Boom Boom Alicki

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Art Vesco
 
Re the picture of Ed Easterly from Lory Curtis. Ed and myself were radio operators for Lt. Ely at the time, in Hdqtrs Company 1st battalion. I have been trying to find out where he is living for quite some time. Any information out there would be greatly appreciated.
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